Friday 6 July 2007

More terror in the name of Islam but where are all the supposed 'moderates'?

From the UK's Daily Express comes this to the point article:
WHERE are the marches and demonstrations, the passionate speeches and angry slogans?

Where are the protesters shouting “not in my name”?

Usually so quick to take to the streets at any perceived slight against their religion, all too many Muslims in Britain seem indifferent to attempted mass slaughter being carried out in the name of Islam.

When an obscure Danish newspaper published a satirical cartoon of the prophet Mohammed last year, there were such huge Muslim rallies that central London was brought to a halt on three successive weekends.
And it should be remembered that those rallies happened five months after the cartoons were published and, in what must be the greatest coincidence of all time, those 'spontaneous' protests all featured a multitude of Danish flags, which Muslims must have kept in their houses for just the right occasion.
Yet the serious terrorist incidents of recent days have incurred no such heated response. In some cases, there was an outright attempt to deny Muslim responsibility. The deputy general secretary of the Muslim Council of Britain, Daud Abdullah, came out with this preposterous statement after the London bombings had been foiled: “Let’s not create a hypothetical problem. It can be the work of Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists.”

To make such an assertion after the record of Islamic terrorist barbarity across the globe over the past decade is an insult to our intelligence. Elsewhere, half-hearted words of condemnation were mixed with the inevitable self-­justifying blather about Iraq, Palestine and Afghanistan.
Groups that self-identify as victims find it much easier to justify barbarity than those that have a better grasp on reality.
This points to a worrying state of denial within the Muslim community in Britain. Too often, there is a shameful unwillingness to face up to the reality of murderous Islamism, which uses the Koran as a blueprint for terrorism. As the former radical Hassan Butt, who has now renounced jihadism, puts it: “Most Islamic institutions in Britain just don’t want to talk about theology. They refuse to broach the difficult topic of violence within Islam.”

Even when Muslims admit to the link between their religion and political violence, they slide into the pose of victimhood, pretending that the actions of the terrorists are only a response to poverty or US imperialism.
Which is exactly the reason that Muslims are attacking the local Inuit population in Greenland because it's a well known fact that not only are the Inuit are up there with the Jews for causing Muslim misery but they're also strong allies of the US.
What is just as sickening is that some of our key political leaders, who should be protecting our society, collude with this grotesque narrative of denial and blame-passing. So in Scotland, shortly after the assault on Glasgow airport, the new First Minister Alex Salmond claimed that “individuals, not communities” were responsible for terrorism, a piece of nonsense given that it is the Muslim community that has bred the terrorists.
A sign of common sense in Scotland would be if the people voted this intellectual minnow out of office.
In London, Mayor Ken Livingstone was even more reprehensible. He dismissed the idea of any connection between Islam and terrorism, claiming that: “Muslims are less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims.” Yeah, right, tell that to the relatives of those killed in the July bombings, or the Twin Towers, or the Bali attacks or the Madrid massacre. Or tell it to your own Metropolitan Police, which says there are at least 2,000 Muslims in Britain linked directly to Al Qaeda. Then Livingstone sought to excuse the bombers by referring to the war in Iraq and to levels of unemployment among young Muslims, both of which had left them alienated from our ­society.
It really is a tight race between Livingstone and Galloway as to who is the biggest fool in the UK. Galloway is probably slightly ahead at present but there's a huge gap back to third.
This is a seriously warped analysis. Hardline Islamists are alienated from the British mainstream because of their own sick, divisive ideology. They are the ones who constantly seek separation, demand special treatment and hold our democratic civilisation in contempt.

Their so-called “disenfranchisement” is entirely of their own making.
That's exactly correct. Muslims all over the world enter nations with a strong commitment to multiculturalism and then immediately use that institution against the host state in order to remain separate.
Violent jihadism was occurring long before Britain and America toppled Saddam Hussein. The continual wailing about Iraq also points to the dubious loyalty of too many British Muslims, who seem to have more sympathy with a cruel dictatorship than with their own nation. Let us remember that, despite the abuse heaped on Bush and Blair, almost all the carnage in Iraq has been caused by Muslims killing fellow Muslims.

They have a nerve complaining about their lot, when it is their co-religionists who have built a climate of fear in our society, murdered scores of innocent British civilians and brought chaos to our transport network. Rather than moaning, Muslims should take res­pon­sibility for reforming their own religion. For there is something rotten with the state of Islam in modern Britain. 

We can see that not just in the propensity of radicals to resort to mass murder but also in the repression of women, the spate of “honour” killings, the shrill demands for the imposition of separatist sharia law, the refusal to integrate and the eagerness to cling to alien customs, such as the wearing of full Islamic dress.

All Western countries have had some problems with Muslim communities. But it is telling that in the US, where there is a far stronger sense of national identity, Muslims are much more integrated.
You can hear the Europeans choking on their morning bowl of multicultural indoctrination. The fact that the United States actually stands for something and has strong values means that all groups are, individually, kept in check and conform with society's standards. You can't fight bad values with no values and as long as Europe heads down the path of irreligious secularism the problem will get worse.
In contrast, the British official state creed of multiculturalism has encouraged victimhood and alienation, through the provision of separate housing, faith schools, language translation, support for mosques, grants to ethnic groups and the abandonment of border ­controls. 

Home-grown terrorism is the price we are paying. And we will not win with yet more appeasement of Islam. Muslims’ grievances are nothing more than the expression of regret that they do not control our society. We have to fight back, and that means abandoning multiculturalism, cracking down on immigration and re-establishing a sense of national identity.

Those Muslims who are really opposed to terrorism will join in this struggle, not sit sullenly on the sidelines.
I disagree with his last statement.

The more I look for signs of the existence of a moderate Muslim majority the more I come to understand that it doesn't exist.

The fact is that Islam is fundamentally a violent, expansionist, political doctrine. Those people carrying out atrocities across the globe really do represent Islam in its perfect form.

The 'silent majority' understands that they do not reflect Islam correctly and they are ashamed of this fact. Thus, they provide moral support to their braver, divinely inspired brothers in arms for doing what they're not prepared to.

It should also be noted that there are many Muslims that are 'non-practicing' although they do observe Islamic holidays and traditions in much the same way that atheists celebrate Christmas. These people have no legitimacy within Islam to drive change, if that were possible for such a static belief system.

7 comments:

Ericosborneo said...

Honestly, after reading the Koran again and looking at some commentaries as well as some texts from historical and current Islamic scholars and leaders, I am not sure there IS such a thing as a moderate muslim.
I AM sure that there are muslim's who aren't personally interested in terror and killing and conquering. But they know very well that, by definition, that makes them not a good muslim so to speak. The Qur'an is quite clear about what Allah requires with regards to furthering the welfare of Islam. It mandates essentially, a take over of the religions of the world until all bow to Allah. People try to compare that with the zeal Christianity has had to spread the good news of Christ. But Christians have rarely, if ever, sawed your head off with a knife in front of a TV camera if you refused - so it is a ridiculous comparison to make. It's like saying a Zebra and a cow are the same because they both have four legs and eat grass.
But check this out - I was shocked to learn why all those "peace loving" and "tolerant" verses in the Qur'an weren't being applied by anyone. The answer I found was that the doctrine of abrogation (naskh) basically requires them to take the later "Medinan" (and much more violent) suras as more authoritative than the earlier, and more peaceful, "Meccan" suras. In other words, the verses of peace and tolerance have been abrogated and set aside in favor of the later suras which are extremely violent and mandate deception, enslavery of unbelievers (or death) and pretty much all the rest of the horrors of war if it will help spread Islam. Notice, it is MANDATED - not just allowed. When I realized that this was an almost universally applied doctrine (naskh), it really sent a chill up my spine.
I now basically consider someone an idiot or a poor liar whenever I hear them spout the "Islam is a religion of peace and has been hijacked by a few..." garbage. Bottom line, according to my studies - it just ain't true!
SO, where is the room for moderates? Now, if somehow the doctrine of abrogation could be repudiated - then we might have some hope of returning to a more balanced approach to Islam. But until then, I'm afraid hoping for a peaceful and reasonable Islam is like looking for an ice cube on the surface of the sun.
In the U.S., there are more nonpracticing muslims and more practicing muslims who also identify (at least a little) with our national spirit. That seems to help things. But, when confronted by the hard-liners, they know they are on shaky ground - so they don't "act the moderate" very often or very loudly, lest they make themselves a target. Because the Qur'an despises a wishy washy muslim even more than it despises an infidel.
Wow! How do you handle a religion like that and still remain a free and open society? Makes me pause and think hard. Mormonism caused some trouble to society for a while and eventually, the govt. cracked down on them and basically forbid them to practice certain elements of their religion (polygamy for one) - or else. Maybe it's time for free societies to outlaw the more extreme practices of Islam or else they face deportation, loss of tax exempt status, imprisonment etc. You hate to do that - but when you have a dragon by the tail, you can't shear them like the sheep. Sterner responses are required or they will eat you and the sheep - in which case your attempts to save the sheep come to naught. I don't know - but it seems like that's where this is headed.

Anonymous said...

Spencer does an excellent job of explaining Islam in his books. It's been well packaged ("Religion of Peace") to cater to the desires of the liberal left, which is ironic as this is the group which is most liable for judgment under Sharia. Unfortunately, we in the west have been conditioned by years of "Christian haters" who can successfully lump all these religions together. Huntington talks about the "Clash of Civilizations" and I believe he is right on. Islam is intent on supplanting all religions; we are content to go along and get along. One would think that SOMEONE would understand that these are mutually incompatible philosophies.

Finally, the "Religion of Peace" thing is fraudulent translation...try "Religion of Submission". Philosophically, peace comes through submission to Islam. But it's not a spiritual peace; its simply freedom from islamic aggression.

Jack Lacton said...

You sum things up, well, Eric. Good work. If the majority of the population realised that our moderate is Islam's weak spirit then perhaps they'd understand the problem a lot better.

Another good point, Jay. "Peace" basically means not having your head sawed off.

pommygranate said...

Eric

Who decides that validity of abrogation?

If the Koran is the literal word of God, then how can it be contradictory?

Jack Lacton said...

Pommygranate,

Islamic jurisprudence is pretty clear on which chapters abrogate others. In effect, the more recent chapters abrogate the older ones if there's any conflict involved in what Mohammed wrote.

Francis W. Porretto said...

"The more I look for signs of the existence of a moderate Muslim majority the more I come to understand that it doesn't exist."

This might be disputed as a matter of abstract convictions. If interpreted functionally, it is absolutely correct.

Muslims are herd animals, who will follow the strongest voices without thinking. Islam is hostile to independent thought, so to retain a belief in it, one must of necessity suppress his tendencies in that direction. Since there's ample doctrinal support for all the worst elements of Islam -- conversion by the sword; subjugation of women and "infidels"; jihad to set Islam politically over all other faiths -- the "strongest" voices in an Islamic ummah will invariably be aligned with these things, and volcanically passionate about them.

Which is why concentrations of Muslims automatically endanger any "infidels" or genuinely tolerant Muslims in the neighborhood.

Anonymous said...

There is no cult that is more evil than Islam. Islam is all about being cruel. Cruel punishment for things that are not even a crime in most countries.
I have read the Koran. It STINKS.

The Koran is the most foul smelling piece of trash on the face of the earth. Islam is the most vile, cruel, brutal and filthy cult on the planet.

One thing is true for sure.

Nothing is worse than Islam.

ISLAM SUCKS!

Religion of Cruelty and injustice.